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Joe and Jada - Erick Sermon talks 'Dynamic Duos' album: Tupac, Biggie, Mobb Deep, Snoop & more

Dec 4, 2025
Joining Fat Joe and Jadakiss, legendary rapper and producer Erick Sermon shares his incredible journey as a founding member of EPMD. He reflects on his collaborations with icons like Jay-Z and Redman, as well as the missed chances to sign legends such as Biggie and Nas. The discussion dives into the 'Dynamic Duos' project, featuring pairings like Tupac and Biggie, while addressing the challenges artists face today from streaming services. Sermon's experiences paint a vivid picture of hip-hop history, legacy, and the evolving music landscape.
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ANECDOTE

Missed Early Signings

  • Erick Sermon admits he passed on early opportunities with Nas, Biggie and Wu-Tang due to not understanding or taking them seriously.
  • He recalls meeting Biggie and having a photo with Wu-Tang but missing the chance to sign them.
ANECDOTE

Trusted Advisor Betrayal

  • Fat Joe shares how a trusted lawyer introduced an accountant who stole his money, leading to jail and financial ruin.
  • He recounts confronting that lawyer years later and feeling betrayed for the setup.
INSIGHT

Streaming Wealth Concentration

  • Sermon explains streaming economics concentrate wealth for platform executives and labels while artists get fractions of cents.
  • He contrasts Spotify presidents' massive pay with artists' tiny per-stream payouts to show systemic imbalance.
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