Kurt Andersen & John Ganz

Kurt Andersen, the author of "Evil Geniuses," shares insights on how Pat Buchanan influenced the rise of Trump and Republican populism. John Ganz, author of "When the Clock Broke," discusses the historical context of today's political turmoil and the implications of Trump's leadership style. They dive into the evolving nature of the Republican Party, the blending of authoritarianism with conservatism, and the dangers posed to democracy by current political trends. Their conversation unveils the cyclical nature of backlash politics and the ramifications of nostalgia for Trump's tenure.