On this week’s Spectator Out Loud: James Heale reflects on Nigel Farage's leadership team; Lisa Haseldine argues that Europe is in denial over its defence; Simon Heffer looks at the extraordinary rise – and tragic fall – of the first Labour Prime Minister, Ramsay MacDonald; and finally, Lloyd Evans reviews the plays I'm Sorry, Prime Minister and American Psycho.

Produced and presented by Patrick Gibbons.

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James Heale, Lisa Haseldine, Simon Heffer & Lloyd Evans