Why Not Now? with Amy Jo Martin Episode 175: Cathy Heller - Navigating the Messy Middle
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Feb 22, 2020 
Cathy Heller, host of Don’t Keep Your Day Job podcast, joins Amy Jo Martin for a candid chat. They discuss finding purpose, navigating 'the messy middle' of transitions, overcoming self-doubt, imperfection in creativity, and turning hobbies into successful businesses. They emphasize embracing vulnerability, personal growth, continuous improvement, and balancing life challenges while seizing moments.
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Finding Your Tribe
- Cathy Heller uses the analogy of finding your tribe at summer camp.
- Even in a large group, you resonate with specific people who share your nuances.
Podcast Messiness
- Cathy Heller initially struggled with her podcast, wanting to quit after multiple attempts.
- She persevered, embracing messiness, and now has 15 million downloads.
Llama Llama Theme Song
- Cathy Heller wrote the theme song for the Netflix show Llama Llama.
- She initially doubted her songs but persevered, leading to success.