On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to Joel Rubin, Barack Obama’s Deputy Assistant Secretary of State. In a heated interview, Afshin Rattansi challenges him on his support for Donald Trump’s and Benjamin Netanyahu’s war on Iran and all of the justifications for it; ranging from Iran’s nuclear program, human rights, ballistic missile program, the failed negotiations with the United States, alleged corruption, and the underlying arguable hypocrisy behind the US’ foreign policy.