
That UFO Podcast Ivan Hannel on Elizondo, UFO Disclosure – and a New Insider coming forward
Jul 31, 2025
Ivan Hannel, a lawyer known for his advocacy in UFO disclosure and his work with Luis Elizondo, dives deep into the intricacies of government transparency. He discusses the pivotal New York Times article that changed public perception and shares legal insights on congressional briefings. Key topics include potential new whistleblowers, the complications surrounding the UAP Disclosure Act, and the need for accountability in the UFO community. Hannel emphasizes the importance of critical evaluation and honest communication as the journey towards disclosure continues.
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Elizondo's Congress Briefing Photo
- At the 2023 Congressional briefing, Elizondo presented a misleading photo of irrigation circles, causing confusion.
- Ivan explains Elizondo's exhaustion led to poor wording, but intent was to stress need for better photo resolving.
Treating UFO Figures Humanely
- Public figures in UFO discussions should be allowed speculation and mistakes with good intent.
- Idolizing or harshly judging them hampers the community's progress and humanity.
Belief in Recovered Craft Increases
- Ivan's exposure to Elizondo and insiders converted him to strongly believe in recovered craft and non-human intelligence.
- He sees government secrecy as a massive hidden program with long historical secrecy dynamics.
