
The Next Wave - AI and The Future of Technology SEO Is Dead: The #1 Skill You Need in 2025
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Sep 3, 2025 Kipp Bodnar, Chief Marketing Officer at HubSpot and a pioneering voice in AI-driven marketing, shares insights into the future of marketing strategies. He argues that traditional SEO is evolving into AI engine optimization, stressing the importance of understanding customer preferences. The conversation emphasizes how HubSpot's AI personalization has dramatically boosted email engagement. Kipp also delves into the significance of 'taste' over tactics in content creation and introduces the innovative Loop Marketing framework for a smarter, more connected approach to branding.
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LLMs Are Shrinking Website Traffic
- AI-driven LLMs are reducing website visits because they provide free answers, which depresses search traffic and click-through rates.
- That decline forces higher ad spend and heavier email use, creating a chain reaction across marketing channels.
Optimize For AI Engines (AEO) And Keep Publishing
- Prepare public content and metadata so LLMs can access and cite your brand; AEO complements SEO rather than replaces it.
- Keep publishing timely, high-quality assets because AI citation can happen almost instantly for trending topics.
Taste Outweighs Tactics
- As AI automates tactical optimizations, 'taste'—deep cultural judgment about an audience—becomes the key differentiator.
- Taste comes from high-volume exposure and clear articulation of what resonates for your customers.

