Inquiry with Kelly Chase

[Cosmosis] The Call Is Coming From Inside The House: James Madden on Belief, Doubt, and UFOs

Sep 11, 2025
Philosopher James Madden, author of Unidentified Flying Hyperobject, joins the discussion to explore the intricate relationship between belief and doubt in the UFO realm. He raises provocative questions about whether ufology has turned into a form of religion. The conversation highlights the significance of critical thinking and transparency in investigations, urging listeners to embrace uncertainty while seeking better questions. With insights into the psychological challenges within the community, Madden inspires a deeper understanding of this mysterious phenomenon.
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ANECDOTE

Veteran Researchers Lack Dark Doubt

  • Jay describes meeting veteran investigators who reported they 'don't have those' dark doubts because they focus on cases daily.
  • He suggests boots-on-the-ground work can sustain wonder without the existential struggle.
INSIGHT

Think Rhizomatically, Not Hierarchically

  • Use a rhizome metaphor instead of a tree to think about explanations; mix ideas laterally rather than subsuming them.
  • Deleuze and Guattari's rhizomatic approach lets investigators rub myths together to explore new territory.
ADVICE

Apply Critical Theory To The Field

  • Apply critical theory to dig up the field's ideological investments and vulnerabilities to manipulation.
  • Madden warns this cleaning is necessary to reduce psyop susceptibility and ideological capture.
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