The Bulwark Podcast S2 Ep1007: Jeffrey Goldberg and Peter Wehner: What's Going on with Our National Security?
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Mar 25, 2025 
In this engaging discussion, Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, and Peter Wehner, a senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, dive into alarming revelations about national security breaches from Trump's Cabinet. They explore how sensitive military plans were mishandled and examine the corrosive effects of revenge politics on the Republican Party. The conversation also touches on the disturbing dehumanization of immigrants and the urgency of addressing humanitarian crises exacerbated by political actions. A must-listen for anyone interested in the state of America's moral compass.
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Goldberg's Refusal to Publish
- Despite calls to publish the texts, Goldberg refuses, prioritizing national security over exposing the administration.
- He acknowledges the irony of Trump's team, known for criticizing unauthorized leaks, committing such a blunder.
Ironic Inclusion
- Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence, warned against unauthorized release of classified information.
- Goldberg's inclusion in the Signal chat, given his critical coverage of Trump, is seen as an ironic inclusion of an "adversary."
Erosion of Values
- Peter Wehner observes that Trump's actions have revealed a lack of principle and courage in much of the Republican party.
- He laments the erosion of values he once admired in the party, now replaced by a pursuit of power.
