Sasha and Stella are both therapists specializing in adolescent gender issues. They've been working together on a brilliant podcast, Gender: A Wider Lens, and return to my channel to speak about what they've learned, and the state of gender in general.

Learn more about their upcoming retreat: https://bit.ly/3PnsEb5

https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm

their youtube: https://youtube.com/channel/UCP62aWWtlZV1oVnbMhTRBcg

NYTimes Article “The Battle Over Gender Therapy” http://archive.today/DuVWe

Dutch Research on transition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISYeDL38tQ

Vasey interview: https://youtu.be/tkulTD3ZHfM

Stephen Levine: https://youtu.be/Uc7NCdNFXfE

Ann Lawrence: https://youtu.be/9_1wXsYdzMI

Mother Nature by Sarah Hrdy: https://amzn.to/3Qmpg1y

Sex Science Self: A Social History of Estrogen, Testosterone, and Identity by Bob Ostertag: https://g.co/kgs/rGJK9g

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s04e86 | Speaking Truth to Gender, with Sasha Ayad & Stella O'Malley