Decoder with Nilay Patel Recode Decode: Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker
Feb 10, 2020
Carol Leonnig, a National investigative reporter for The Washington Post, and Phil Rucker, the White House Bureau Chief, share riveting insights from their book, 'A Very Stable Genius.' They discuss the chaos of the Trump presidency, revealing how they garnered trust from insiders amidst turmoil. Their conversation touches on Trump’s self-perception as a 'genius,' the ramifications of his Twitter use on politics, and the evolving landscape for journalists navigating press freedoms under pressure. They also address the impacts of their recent media challenges.
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Pentagon Meeting
- During a Pentagon meeting, Trump berated military leaders, calling them "dopes and babies."
- Rex Tillerson challenged Trump, defending military personnel's motivations and service.
Nielsen's Challenge
- Trump berated Kirstjen Nielsen for explaining asylum laws, while Jeff Sessions supported Trump's illegal idea to close the border.
- Jared Kushner signaled Nielsen to stop speaking truth to power.
Trump's Abuse
- Trump would call Nielsen late at night with immigration ideas from Lou Dobbs, then wake her at 5 AM demanding action.
- He also attacked Nielsen's appearance, deeming her too short for her role.
