Cloud Security Podcast by Google

EP271 Can AI-Native MDR Actually Fix Your Broken SOC Workflows or Just Automate the Mess?

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Apr 9, 2026
Bashar Abouseido, President of Tenex.AI and former CISO focused on metrics and AI-enabled ops, and Eric Foster, CEO of Tenex.AI and veteran practitioner pushing AI-native MDR, debate whether AI-native MDR can modernize SOCs stuck on legacy SIEM. They discuss data quality, agentic remediation, new metrics beyond MTTD, trust for autonomous containment, and hybrid platform-plus-edge AI strategies.
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INSIGHT

Bolting AI Onto Legacy SIEM Is A Mistake

  • Bolting AI onto legacy SIEMs often fails because those systems weren't designed for AI-driven workflows.
  • Eric Foster compares it to giving a monolith an IP address and putting it on the internet, creating architectural mismatches and poor outcomes.
ADVICE

Measure Outcomes Not Just MTTD

  • Focus metrics on outcomes like false positives, false negatives, and a small number of high-quality alerts per analyst.
  • Bashar Abouseido suggests aiming for about five true alerts per analyst per day to enable quality response and situational understanding.
INSIGHT

Agentic MDR Can Triaged All Alerts Rapidly

  • Agentic systems can triage 100% of alerts at machine speed, reducing mean time to dwell dramatically.
  • Eric Foster cites a case study (Sunrun) claiming 100% alert coverage and average triage to true MTTR in 48 seconds.
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