2024 Updates & Ellen's New Book, "Making It"!

The hosts reconnect after a two-year break, sharing exciting personal updates and discussing Ellen's upcoming book about success in the culinary world. They dive into their gardening adventures and unique indoor plants, emphasizing self-reliance. The conversation also covers the challenges of turning academic research into engaging narratives for the culinary field. They explore book pricing, the realities of academic publishing, and the intertwining of personal stories with broader societal themes. Get ready for a fun and insightful journey!