
Credit Exchange with Lisa Lee Significant downside risk for credit sectors impacted by AI – BlackRock co-head of leveraged finance Mitch Garfin
Jan 30, 2026
Mitch Garfin, co-head of leveraged finance at BlackRock and seasoned credit investor, discusses AI-driven disruption risks and market reactions. He highlights sector positioning, underweighting consumer and retail while favoring stable cash-flow names. Data center issuance, refinancing opportunities and how BlackRock assesses AI winners and losers are also covered.
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Favor Stable Cash Flows Over Consumer Cyclicals
- BlackRock is underweight retail, consumer products, restaurants and leisure due to weaker low-to-middle-class demand.
- They prefer issuers with stable cash flows like insurance brokers, aerospace and defense.
Saks/Neiman Bankruptcy Was A Balance-Sheet Case
- Garfin describes the Saks/Neiman case as a balance-sheet problem driven by too much debt after sponsor activity.
- He frames it as idiosyncratic rather than a pure consumer demand failure.
AI Creates Both Demand And Downside Risk
- AI is a dominant theme causing both investment demand (data centers) and disruption risk (software).
- Even hints of AI disruption have pushed some bonds and loans down several points recently.

