Psychedelics Today Richard Grossman PhD - Exploring Ayahuasca, Acupuncture and Healing
Aug 1, 2018
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Download During this episode of Psychedelics Today, Kyle Buller interviews Dr. Richard Grossman, an ayahuasca ceremony facilitator and expert with a background in healing and acupuncture. Episode Quotes
- I find mystical poetry to be an amazing aid in ceremony work.
- Is it the vision or the emotion that you feel and then the vision comes?
- In my work, the psychedelic experience is about going beyond the visionary state.
- The core of all creation is in the heart and breath.
- About Dr. Richard Grossman
- Has a long background in healing.
- He used to be a macrobiotic chef.
- Primeval meditations and licensed acupuncturist.
- Works with ayahuasca and San Pedro.
- How did Richard get involved in ayahuasca?
- A friend brought some up from Peru and his life changed in one night.
- It took him years as an acupuncturist learning more about healing.
- He's been doing this for about thirty years.
- Do you integrate your acupuncture practice into ceremony?
- Not so much with ayahuasca - that's done traditionally.
- He had a lot of experience with the Shipibo Tradition.
- With the San Pedro method, the body change happens in one day.
- Opinions on psychedelic visions.
- Many people want them and they're a distraction.
- The real thing is that the source of everything is within.
- If a person can experience that for an instant, their life changes.
- There are a lot of things happening on subtle levels.
- The psychonaut and healing processes are quite different.
- What are some examples of ideas you've seen in the psychedelic community?
- People trying to draw in gods and goddesses.
- You need to see how deep a human being can go, it's an infinite journey.
- What is it like to go deeper and deeper?
- If you can imagine a series of curtains parting over and over and over again.
- You begin to see places of illusion.
- During one of his trips, he visualized himself in a Nazi concentration camp.
- A voice told him to trust and forgive.
- He began to question what forgiveness and trust mean.
- Some people are seeking spirituality and not really healing within.
- Ayahuasca tourism is a fairly good thing, rather than people coming and ruining the jungle.
- How would you define a healing process?
- It's a complex subject, he likes the idea of a series of concentric circles.
- Do you work with a person's energy?
- People get very relaxed.
- If there is someone who can't get relax he calms them with acupuncture.
- Do you think intoxicants affects the chi?
- San Pedro or ayahuasca are not considered intoxicants.
- He sees that ayahuasca is only good for the body.
- Psilocybin has a rough effect on the liver.
- The tannins in ayahuasca are valuable and bind toxins in the body.
- Do you have to worry about any cardiovascular problems?
- It is a stimulant so he screens people before doing the ceremony.
- Beauty is a healing process, beauty heals.
- Is there anything you're excited about in the psychedelic world?
- When the community comes together to heal it's powerful.
- We're all going to a place of more love, peace, joy, and healing.
- What's the outcome of thousands of people experiencing love and joy?
- What's the ayahuasca ceremony structure?
- Constant music, keeping things from going totally wonky.
- There's a point in the ceremony that it could go in either direction:
- Total group insanity or total group healing.
- Iowaska ceremonies can be dangerous.
- It's something to be respected with its own spirit.
- You must hold close to the traditions of generations.
- There's always a point during the ceremony where he feels it's the most important and beautiful place he's ever been.
- Drama's not necessary, our culture wants the drama.
- We need to outgrow externalizing the blame.
- Life in our heart is meant to be enjoyed.
- Suffering to heal just doesn't work.
- Culture seems to dwell on suffering, is that conditioning?
- The worst thing a human can possibly do is feeling guilty.
- "Guilt can't fly and God wants you to fly."
- The nature of reality is joy and love.
- You need to be willing to let go of the things that don't work.
- Psychedelics can be used as a guiding light.
- The worst thing a human can possibly do is feeling guilty.
- Any final advice, events?
- Find him on his website or on Facebook.
- Heartfeather.com - Dr. Richard Grossman's website.
- Don't stop, just keep going.