Behind the Markets Podcast

Good Luck with That

Jan 23, 2026
Dave Goodson, head of securitized fixed income at Voya and senior portfolio manager specializing in mortgage‑ and asset‑backed securities. He talks about agency MBS reactions to a $200B GSE purchase program. He explores non‑agency RMBS as yield opportunities. He discusses housing policy ambiguity, global bond moves, and how AI-driven data‑center financing touches securitized markets.
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INSIGHT

Value And Small Caps Leading The Cycle

  • Siegel notes persistent outperformance of small-cap and value stocks as AI benefits shift to users, not producers.
  • He expects 2026 to be the year users of AI capture productivity gains while AI producers moderate.
ADVICE

Reassess Duration After Agency RMBS Rally

  • Dave Goodson warns negative agency MBS spreads signal inadequate compensation for prepayment risk after a $200B GSE purchase announcement.
  • He suggests fixed income investors reassess duration exposure and expect lower total returns on duration-heavy holdings.
INSIGHT

Verbal Policy Moves Can Move Deep Markets

  • Agency RMBS drove excess and total returns last year and now face renewed momentum from policy talk rather than immediate buys.
  • The $200B verbal program amplified performance but leaves the market wondering if the support is durable.
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