#56 - Jocko Willink, retired Navy SEAL, Part II of II: Sleep, fasting, raising kids, discipline, taking ownership, and the impact of war

Jun 3, 2019

In this engaging discussion, Jocko Willink, a retired Navy SEAL and bestselling author, opens up about his disciplined life. He shares insights into his sleep routine and the importance of fasting for both mind and body. Jocko also reflects on raising children with core values while tackling the challenges of leadership. His thoughts on the complex dynamics of warfare, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan, reveal how his combat experiences have profoundly shaped his mindset. A fascinating exploration of the intersection between discipline, family, and resilience awaits!

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Kids Books

Jocko wrote children's books to instill timeless values and principles.
He learned to avoid imposing values too forcefully after pushing his children too hard in jujitsu.

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Leading with Ownership

Lead families and teams by empowering them to create plans, fostering commitment and ownership.
Avoid barking orders, as this approach leads to resentment and rejection.

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Jocko's Sleep Routine

Jocko's typical sleep schedule involves going to bed at 11 pm, waking up at 4:30 am, and occasionally taking eight-minute naps.
He claims to rarely feel tired despite this routine, attributing physical tiredness to intense training.

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In the second installment of this 2 part series, Jocko shares his sleep routine and attitude towards sleep, we talk about his meals (and occasional indulgences), his experience with fasting, and touch briefly on his workout routine. Jocko explains his approach to leading a family, instilling values in his kids, and working with others who may not share your same principles. We also find out what prompted Jocko to make discipline the underpinning principle of his life, when it might make sense to quit, and the philosophical topics such as free will, mindset, and whether or not you can change someone. We also discuss 9/11 and the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the future of warfare, and perhaps more importantly, how Jocko's experience in combat has shaped and impacted his life to this day.

We discuss:

Where was Jocko when the 9/11 attack occurred? What did he think? [5:45];
How SEAL teams are structured, and which teams Jocko was on [10:45];
War in Afghanistan: Unique challenges, how it differs from Iraq, and the lessons learned [13:00];
Iraq War: Differing public opinions on war, Jocko's experiences in Iraq, strategic mistake of ISIS, and the Saddam regime [19:15];
The future of warfare: machine technology in war and medicine [27:30];
Raising kids, instilling values, and leading a family [33:45];
Sleep: Jocko's habits, routine, and attitude towards sleep [40:15];
When it makes sense to quit [53:30];
What makes Jocko different, the existence of free will, and whether or not you can change people [1:01:45];
How to work with people with a bad attitude and opposing mindset [1:07:45];
Does Jocko ever indulge? Favorite foods and treats [1:11:00];
Fasting and meal timing [1:16:30];
Olivia (Peter's daughter) interviews Jocko [1:21:45];
What prompted Jocko to start prioritizing discipline in his life? [1:22:15];
What does Jocko do in his workouts? [1:23:30];
Where did the nickname, Jocko, come from? [1:24:20];
Jocko's favorite book, his best advice, and secret to getting up early [1:25:50];
The impact that war had on Jocko [1:28:00]; and
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