
The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie What Happened to the Republican Party?
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Oct 22, 2025 Jeff Flake, former U.S. senator from Arizona and U.S. ambassador to Turkey, shares insights on the Republican Party's transformation under Trump. He reflects on his principled stand against political degradation and the costs of compromise. Discussing immigration, Flake argues for expansion of legal pathways, linking anti-immigrant sentiment with protectionism. He emphasizes the need for political reforms to improve governance and warns of rising national debt. Flake's journey includes efforts in foreign diplomacy and hopes for a more engaged, responsible political culture.
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How Border Enforcement Changed Migration
- Flake explains border dynamics changed when enforcement hardened, converting seasonal migration into settled immigration.
- He says policy must balance stronger border control with larger legal pathways for immigration.
Trade, Tariffs, And National Decline
- Flake links anti-immigrant sentiment to rising protectionism and warns tariffs cause decline.
- He stresses tariffs are inflationary and require allied coordination to confront strategic competitors like China.
Watching Namibia Write Its Constitution
- Flake recounted helping Namibia gain independence and watching its leaders write a constitution in 1989.
- He described being moved by Václav Havel's speech and by foreign admiration for the U.S. model of freedom.




