Inside the Rope with David Clark

Ep 219: Qiao Ma - Is SaaS Dead? The Structural Shift in Growth Investing

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Mar 30, 2026
Qiao Ma, portfolio manager at Munro Partners who digs into supply chains and research-driven growth investing. She discusses AI’s real economic winners, why chips, power, and data centers matter, and how AI challenges SaaS durability and valuation. She also explains looking beyond headline names to supply-chain and infrastructure winners.
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ANECDOTE

Growing Up Charting Stocks On The Wall

  • Qiao grew up charting stocks with her father, literally drawing prices on a wall and climbing a ladder to fit multi‑baggers.
  • That decade of hands‑on exposure shaped her shift from technical patterns to deep fundamental analysis.
ANECDOTE

Tearing Apart Products Reveals Investable Winners

  • Qiao Ma tore apart an iPhone to map the investable component suppliers during the mobile wave.
  • She repeated the approach intellectually for Nvidia, studying chips, networking and supply chain winners to build concentrated positions.
INSIGHT

Invest The Physical Stack Behind AI

  • AI is a physical stack that needs chips, power and data centres, so invest the supply chain not just headline AI names.
  • Qiao highlights power electronics, utilities, semiconductors and networking as durable, earnings‑driven beneficiaries today.
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