Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey

Ep 1297 | Rebutting Ben Cremer’s Unbiblical Take on ICE

Feb 2, 2026
A spirited rebuttal to progressive critiques of conservative Christians over immigration enforcement and ICE. Topics include defining Christian nationalism, how worldview shapes law and voting, biblical arguments for borders and pro‑life laws, and critiques of progressive prooftexting. The conversation also tackles accusations against white evangelicals, Catholic social justice claims, and pastoral weakness amid media outrage.
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ADVICE

Defend Faith Shaping Law Without Theocracy

  • Do not accept the accusation that faith-informed policy equals a theocracy; distinguish worldview influence from forcing worship.
  • Defend voting your convictions because separation of church and state protects churches, not the removal of God from law.
INSIGHT

Borders As Legitimate Moral Instruments

  • National borders and sovereign lawmaking are legitimate and necessary for a state's ability to protect citizens.
  • Sovereignty grants legitimacy to create and enforce laws that secure the common good.
INSIGHT

Don't Conflate Kingdom And Nation

  • Progressives often conflate the kingdom of God with secular policy, misapplying interpersonal commands to national law.
  • Biblical commands to love sojourners do not automatically justify open or illegal borders in civic policy.
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