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Ryan Dobratz - Fannie, Freddie & The Future

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Aug 19, 2025
Ryan Dobratz, who runs the real estate strategy at Third Avenue, dives into the intriguing world of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. He discusses the political pressures facing these giants and their potential exit from conservatorship. The conversation delves into the current housing landscape, highlighting a recovery in new home construction and the rising interest in manufactured housing. Dobratz also shares insights on how AI is set to transform industrial real estate logistics and the impact of interest rates on various market sectors.
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INSIGHT

G-Fees And Spreads Add To Mortgage Cost

  • G-fees rose since conservatorship and contribute to today's wider mortgage spreads.
  • If GSEs can compress spreads, 30-year mortgage rates could fall materially below current levels.
INSIGHT

New Homes Gained Share While Resales Lag

  • Existing home sales are stuck near GFC lows while new home starts have held up better.
  • New builders used buy-downs to sustain demand and gained share from existing home market weakness.
ADVICE

Tilt Toward Financially Strong Homebuilders

  • Increase exposure to well-capitalized residential builders as housing recovery optionality grows.
  • Prefer land-light, net-cash builders with diverse brand portfolios to capture upside.
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