The Dispatch Podcast What Remains of Conservatism | Interview: Jay Nordlinger
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May 19, 2025 
Jay Nordlinger, a former writer at National Review and music critic at the New Criterion, delves into the MAGAfication of the GOP. He discusses the ideological paradox surrounding Trump, accountability in politics, and the ethical dilemmas of foreign policy. The conversation explores American identity, the evolution of conservatism, and the influence of past figures like Bill Buckley. Nordlinger also reflects on the resilience of American institutions and the future of conservative journalism amidst changing political landscapes.
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Trump's Realpolitik with Dictators
- Trump's approach to dictatorships is realistic and accommodating, prioritizing alliances over lecturing.
- This stance echoes Jean Kirkpatrick's doctrine of supporting allies while guiding them subtly towards better behavior.
Kirkpatrick's Impact on Dissidents
- Andrei Sakharov told Jean Kirkpatrick her name was known in every Soviet political prison cell.
- Her public condemnations of Soviet political prisoners gave them hope and symbolized moral support.
American Exceptionalism and Identity
- American identity includes immigrant roots and shared values beyond bloodlines.
- American exceptionalism involves standing for ideals and maintaining a high regard for others as part of national interest.
