The InFluency Podcast

502. Fluency isn't A1-C2: The 5 speaking stages no one talks about

Mar 3, 2026
They introduce a new framework of five speaking stages that map how people actually show up when speaking. You hear vivid portraits from avoiders who dodge conversation to influencers who inspire others. Practical turning points for moving between stages and a quick quiz to identify where you are are highlighted throughout.
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INSIGHT

Fluency Is About Speaking Stages Not CEFR

  • Fluency should be measured by speaking stages, not just A1–C2 grammar levels.
  • Hadar defines five speaking stages: Avoider, Anxious Speaker, Brave Speaker, Challenger, and Influencer, focusing on speaking behavior and confidence.
ADVICE

Decide To Stop Avoiding Speaking

  • Do stop avoiding speaking and make a decision to speak more often to break the Avoider pattern.
  • Hadar recommends starting with a simple decision and using her quiz to get tailored resources and action steps.
INSIGHT

Anxiety Means You're Taking Action

  • An Anxious Speaker has begun speaking but still feels exposed, overthinks, and replays conversations.
  • Progress comes from consistent speaking with diverse real people to normalize discomfort and build trust in your skills.
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