Defense & Aerospace Report Podcast [Washington Roundtable Oct 03, ’25]
Oct 3, 2025
This roundtable features Michael Herson, a defense lobbyist; Dr. Dov Zakheim, a former Pentagon comptroller; Dr. Patrick Cronin, an Asia-Pacific security expert; and Jim Townsend, a transatlantic security consultant. They discuss the implications of the U.S. government shutdown on defense funding and military confirmations. The guests analyze Secretary Hegseth's controversial meeting on military culture, Russia's drone threats in Europe, and China's gray-zone warfare tactics, highlighting the complex dynamics shaping modern defense strategies.
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Use Shutdown Time To Negotiate
- Negotiate an off-ramp on ACA tax credits during the shutdown lull instead of immediate capitulation.
- Use the seven weeks to craft compromises and avoid hasty political losses, Michael Herson argues.
Targeted Funding Freezes As Leverage
- The administration is weaponizing budget controls—freezing infrastructure and grants—to pressure political foes.
- Herson describes targeted freezes affecting prominent Democrats' districts as deliberate leverage.
Political Messaging Hardened Stances
- Public messaging moves, like a deepfake post targeting Schumer and Jeffries, hardened partisan positions and reduced prospects for quick compromise.
- Herson links such actions to lowered chances of an early shutdown resolution.



