Design Matters with Debbie Millman

20th Anniversary celebration with the most memorable guests: Jason Reynolds, Marina Abramović, Chris Ware, Richard Saul Wurman, Rick Rubin, and Roxane Gay

Jan 19, 2026
Join award-winning author Jason Reynolds, known for his impactful storytelling, as he reflects on his upbringing and the power of language in shaping identity. Rick Rubin, the legendary record producer behind Def Jam, shares insights on his punk origins and the DJ-centric roots of hip hop. Artist Marina Abramović discusses her provocative performance Rhythm Zero, exploring vulnerability and audience interaction. Finally, Roxane Gay talks about women's autonomy and the honest journey of writing her memoir, Hunger.
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ANECDOTE

Surrendering To The Audience

  • Marina Abramović describes Rhythm 0 where she offered 72 objects and surrendered will to the audience for six hours.
  • The experiment escalated into violence and nearly lethal danger, teaching her that the public can kill you and revealing limits of trust.
INSIGHT

Tools Shape Audience Behavior

  • Marina learned that offering tools shapes audience behavior: instruments can either wound or uplift the spirit.
  • She spent 25 years discovering how to give the audience tools to elevate rather than degrade experience.
INSIGHT

Make Art That Feels Real

  • Chris Ware aims to capture life as he experiences it, including waiting, anxiety, and sadness, to make his work feel real.
  • He cites films like Tokyo Story as models for honest, empathic depiction rather than manufactured drama.
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