Soul Boom BJ Novak Outsmarts Rainn (Again)
Apr 23, 2026
B.J. Novak, writer, actor, and comedian known for The Office and his books, reflects on fame, anxiety, and spiritual growth. He revisits behind-the-scenes comedy, improv play, theater and clowning roots. Conversations touch on regret, gratitude, writing routines, and why soul and purpose matter in a fame-driven culture.
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House Fire Revealed Poor Coping And Regret
- Rainn describes his house burning, the motel/Airbnb moves, and how he and his wife handled it poorly.
- He admits he should have taken extended self-care, prayer, and nature time instead of soldiering on with anxiety.
Plan Retreats Not Motels After Trauma
- Do prioritize mental health and plan for major disruptions by booking a peaceful long-term retreat rather than short motels.
- Rainn recommends meditation, prayer, self-care and nature when anxiety spikes during life upheaval.
Success Can Trigger Scarcity Mentality
- Both guests note the paradox of success: good fortune triggers scarcity thinking instead of gratitude.
- B.J. links this to childhood deprivation and a persistent ‘hide the cookie’ mentality despite later success.
