Eoin and Ken wonder about the element of surprise in football, we hear from some angry managers, and discuss Jose Mourinho's new idea for Chelsea's skull n bones club crest.John Brewin joins us to talk about what has Arsene Wenger so irritated.And Raphael Honigstein analyses the early-season struggles of Borussia Dortmund and if Germans have recovered from their 1-1 draw with Ireland.
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