This conversation is so special because it's a reminder that the things that you're going through that often feel so heavy might just mean you're on the brink of something wonderful! That good things are around the corner. It's a message to not give up. And we're confident about this promise because of a scripture in James 1:2 to "count it all for joy."

In this episode, a new host to the pod, Courtney Spencer, joins fellow podcaster Tammy Uzelac Hall. Tammy is the host of Deseret Bookshelf+'s Sunday on Monday podcast where she leads a Come, Follow Me study. She is a mom, a wife, a teacher, and a lover of cheese.

Don't forget to register now at magnifythegood.com/events for Lift Up Your Heart: a Magnify Gathering and use code PODCAST10 at checkout (excludes already discounted group pricing).

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