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Reform's Zia Yusuf in conversation with Michael Gove

Sep 7, 2025
Zia Yusuf, Head of the department of government efficiency for Reform UK and former tech entrepreneur, chats with Michael Gove about a range of pressing issues. They explore Labour's governance record and Zia’s personal journey into politics. The conversation delves into controversial immigration policies and fiscal reforms aimed at enhancing public services. They also examine the transformative potential of AI in society and the UK's capacity to lead in this field, wrapping up with a fast-paced critique of current and past political leaders.
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ADVICE

Step Back To Recharge

  • When exhausted or burnt out, step back briefly to recharge and then return with renewed focus.
  • Yusuf resigned temporarily to rest and returned quickly after constituent support convinced him to continue.
ADVICE

Recruit Specialists To Run Departments

  • Broaden the talent pool for ministers by appointing specialists from outside Parliament and using the Lords for experts.
  • Guarantee ministers time in post to reduce civil service dominance and allow operational accountability.
INSIGHT

Design Laws To Withstand Legal Challenges

  • Operation Restoring Justice requires resilient legislation designed to prevent judicial blocks on deportation flights.
  • Yusuf stresses detailed operational planning, including standby aircraft, to avoid bottlenecks.
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