
Unbelievable? Jordan Peterson, William Lane Craig & Rebecca Goldstein debate the meaning of life. A Podcast special.
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Apr 20, 2018 Jordan B. Peterson, clinical psychologist and bestselling author who links meaning to confronting suffering and responsibility. Rebecca Neuberger Goldstein, philosopher and novelist who champions naturalism and epistemic responsibility. They debate whether meaning needs God, how secular moral progress and mythic images guide us, and whether confronting suffering or grounding values in the transcendent best secures purpose.
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Choose Ground Projects That Let You Matter
- Rebecca Newberger Goldstein advises pursue ground projects aligned with your talents that satisfy the will to matter while remaining epistemically responsible.
- She models this with her own project: reaching across deep metaphysical divides to common humanity.
Beethoven At The Berlin Wall Demonstrates Present Meaning
- Jordan B Peterson recounts hearing Beethoven's Ninth at the fall of the Berlin Wall to show collective triumph resists cosmic‑end objections.
- The orchestra's moment of meaning isn't negated by eventual physical endings; it's about present experience.
Evil Reveals Transcendent Moral Anchors
- Peterson identifies transcendent moral poles by pointing to acts like Auschwitz as revealing an objective sense of evil and a place to stand.
- That recognition motivates seeking modes of being that oppose malevolence and generate enduring values to discover, not invent.















