The Azure Security Podcast

Episode 113: Microsoft Red Team

May 16, 2025
Craig Nelson, VP of Microsoft's Red Team, dives into the fascinating world of cybersecurity, focusing on the team's role in simulating real-world attacks to uncover vulnerabilities. He discusses the critical skills needed for effective red teaming and the ethical implications of their work. The guests also tackle emerging threats, particularly the influence of AI on cybersecurity strategies. From measuring red team effectiveness to addressing common vulnerabilities, this conversation is packed with insights essential for anyone interested in protecting digital landscapes.
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ADVICE

Purpose of Red Teaming

  • Use red teaming to force system evolution and reveal real attack paths.
  • Focus on identity, network edges, and detecting responses assuming attacker breach.
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Ethics and Rules in Red Teaming

  • Always define strict rules of engagement covering scope, safety, and notification.
  • Never disrupt business or access customer data; ethics are non-negotiable in red teaming.
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Crafting Effective Rules of Engagement

  • Create broad scope and clear safety deconfliction in red team rules of engagement.
  • Treat red team alerts as real threats in security operations to maximize learning.
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