Stephan Livera Podcast

Are DLCs the Solution to Bitcoin Lending? with Matt Black & Jay Patel | SLP716

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Feb 5, 2026
Jay Patel, an experienced lending professional from Anchorage now at Lygos Finance, and Matt Black, a Bitcoin developer who built Atomic Finance, discuss non-custodial Bitcoin lending using DLCs. They cover how DLCs work for loans, Magnolia oracle attestation, faster adapter-signature setups, competitive rates via trust-minimized infrastructure, global reach, funding with stablecoins, and potential Bitcoin upgrades that could simplify DLCs.
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ANECDOTE

How Lygos Was Born

  • Atomic Finance's derivatives tech combined with Anchorage's lending experience led to Lygos Finance's formation.
  • Matt Black and Jay Patel describe this merger as a perfect marriage of technology and lending expertise.
INSIGHT

Bitcoin Collateral Lending Scale

  • Bitcoin-collateralized lending is large and growing, estimated above $25–30 billion.
  • This market is distinct from exchange margin lending and focuses on liquidity against Bitcoin collateral.
INSIGHT

DLCs Fit Lending, Covenants Needed Elsewhere

  • DLCs are especially well-suited to lending today while other DLC use-cases often need covenants.
  • Matt argues non-custodial DLC lending can scale with hardware wallet and custodian integrations.
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