The Contemplative Pastor Relational Spirituality: Part 2 (Q&A with John Mark Comer and Dr. Todd Hall)
Mar 26, 2026
John Mark Comer, pastor and author who teaches contemplative practices, and Dr. Todd Hall, psychologist specializing in attachment and spiritual formation, answer pastors' questions. They tackle vulnerability with boundaries, where leaders find safe relationships outside power dynamics, cultivating psychological safety on staff, and how embodiment and implicit knowing complement teaching.
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Tailor Vulnerability To Emotional Maturity
- Match vulnerability to the other's emotional maturity like tailoring explanations by age.
- John Mark Comer: some people are 'emotional toddlers' needing simpler, contained sharing while others can handle deep lament.
Allow An Arc From Lament To Rejoicing
- Create distinct spaces and allow an arc from lament to trust rather than rushing to rejoicing.
- Todd Hall: lament can include movement toward faith within the same meeting or across several gatherings; don't skip stages.
Use Small Loving Experiences In Transient Contexts
- Offer a handful of consistent loving contrast experiences to shift people in transient contexts.
- Todd Hall: even short, present moments of regulated care get internalized and can redirect people toward growth over time.
