
The Daily 'The Interview': Chloé Zhao Is Yearning to Know How to Love
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Jan 24, 2026 Chloé Zhao, Academy Award–winning filmmaker behind Nomadland and Hamnet, reflects on her creative process and leadership style. She discusses improvisation on set, training as a death doula, confronting impermanence, and how grief, myth, and memory shape her work. Short, candid, and emotionally curious conversation.
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Grief Is Innate; Rituals Shape It
- Biological grief is unchanged across eras, but cultural stories and rituals shape suffering.
- Medicalizing death and losing communal rites increase avoidable suffering today.
Training As A Death Doula
- Chloé trained as a death doula to face her fear of death and open to love.
- She links her fear of death to difficulty living fully and loving vulnerably.
Use Mortality To Unlock Living
- Confronting mortality can free you to live and love with an open heart.
- Zhao sees embracing impermanence as essential to overcoming fear-driven isolation.




