Minds Capital Podcast

The 3-5-7x MOIC Underwriting Framework

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Aug 27, 2025
Rick Apple, founder of Upside Growth Partners and a Princeton grad, shares his journey of scaling 12 platforms while raising five kids. He discusses the delicate balance of entrepreneurship and family life, emphasizing smart sourcing and deliberate underwriting. The conversation dives into private equity insights, the importance of accurate data for deal valuation, and evolving investment strategies from high-risk startups to established acquisitions. Rick also highlights the challenges of entrepreneurship, branding, and building investor networks, while sharing personal anecdotes and advice.
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ANECDOTE

Beaufort Bonnet Seeded The Model

  • Rick and Eric invested personal time and money into Beaufort Bonnet and leaned in operationally to grow it.
  • That hands-on effort led to a sale to a public company and seeded Upside's future model.
ADVICE

Invest In Systems And Talent First

  • Fix accounting, KPIs, budgeting, and ERP early after acquisition to enable scaling.
  • Hire expensive, capable people quickly once capital is available to execute growth plans.
INSIGHT

MOIC Scales With Risk Profile

  • Smaller, earlier-stage deals need much higher MOIC (10–20x) to justify time and risk.
  • More mature lower-middle-market deals can credibly underwrite a 5x base case with 7x upside and 3x downside.
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