Steve Deace Show Did We WIN in Minnesota? | Guests: Mary Holland & Daniel Horowitz | 2/4/26
Feb 4, 2026
Daniel Horowitz, conservative commentator on strategy and policy, weighs in on Minnesota, the SAVE Act, and whether federal action signals victory. Mary Holland, attorney and president of Children’s Health Defense, discusses a new racketeering lawsuit targeting medical institutions. The conversation jumps between enforcement tactics, legal strategy, and the political stakes at play.
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Minnesota Showdown: Partial Win, Not Final
- The Minnesota showdown revealed incomplete victory: local enforcement stepped up but federal drawdown risks future challenges.
- Steve Deace and Aaron McIntyre warn the show of force must be sustained to deter blue cities this summer.
Dan Bongino Returned With 'Bubkis'
- Steve Deace recounts concluding Dan Bongino returned from DC 'with squat' despite his credibility and independence.
- Deace says that revelation suggests deep systemic resistance within Washington's institutions.
Washington's Circular Patronage Problem
- The hosts see deep, circular networks of patronage and influence across parties, making reform difficult even with committed actors.
- Steve Deace warns that if independent stars fail in DC, the system's entrenchment is worse than suspected.