E127: The Tech Right and How The Left Can Fix Itself w/ Jon Askonas

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Mar 20, 2025

Jon Askonas, an assistant professor of politics and senior fellow at the Foundation for American Innovation, joins to discuss the unexpected coalition between MAGA supporters and Silicon Valley tech leaders. They delve into the evolution of political alignments, tensions within the tech right, and emerging issues like immigration and biotechnology. Askonas highlights the need for the left to better engage younger audiences and navigates the complexities of political transformations, including the implications of cryptocurrency and AI on future governance.

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The New Right Coalition

The new right coalition comprises the tech right, MAGA, and the "Make America Healthy Again" (Maha) movement.
These groups are united by a perceived "existential fight" against established institutions (the "Cathedral").

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Fighting the Cathedral

The "Cathedral" represents established institutions like the administrative state, media, and universities perceived as hostile to traditional American culture.
The new right's fight against the "Cathedral" is more energetic and offensive than the old fusionism's fight against communism.

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Fault Lines in the Coalition

The tech right's pro-immigration stance clashes with the MAGA movement's focus on immigration restriction.
Another potential fault line lies in the tech right's enthusiasm for transhumanism and biotechnology, which some in MAGA and Maha view with skepticism.

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Today on Upstream, we’re airing Erik Torenberg’s conversation with Jon Askonas. They explore the emerging coalition between MAGA supporters and Silicon Valley tech leaders, examines the underlying political realignment, the tensions and fault lines within this coalition, and the potential future conflicts surrounding issues like immigration and transhumanism.

This episode originally aired on Moment Zen (February 22, 2025)

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LINKS:

Ezra Klein on Supply-side Progressivism, Polarization, and What Silicon Valley Misses About Politics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vBO8SYvto

The Future of Crypto with Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQdaQr3EW8g

Tech for Trump: https://www.city-journal.org/article/tech-for-trump

The New Control Society: https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-new-control-society

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HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE EPISODE:

Silicon Valley has experienced a significant shift away from Democrats, visually demonstrated by tech CEOs like Nadella, Pichai, Bezos, and Zuckerberg attending Trump's inauguration.
The tech elite was historically one of the most entrenched parts of the Democratic coalition from the Clinton era through the Obama administration.
COVID enabled tech to be publicly anti-left due to perceived governance incompetence, with figures like Mike Solana leading criticism of San Francisco's policies.
Brian Armstrong's "no politics at Coinbase" stance marked a controversial turning point, though it wasn't explicitly right-wing.
The new right coalition consists of three pillars: the Tech Right (elite talent and donors), MAGA (America First policies), and MAHA (Make America Healthy Again).
What unites this coalition is an "existential fight with the Cathedral" - targeting establishment institutions rather than protecting existing systems.
Immigration represents a major fault line, with tech generally being pro-immigration while the MAGA base is restrictionist.
Transhumanism and biotechnology create tension between tech enthusiasm for innovation versus MAGA/MAHA skepticism about "messing with natural biology."
Democrats are struggling with post-election analysis, focusing on messaging rather than substance.
Trump's approach differs from previous Republicans by focusing on destroying rather than reforming institutions.
Many of Trump's most controversial positions were actually Democratic positions in the 1990s.

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