The Long Game with Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer Iran After Khamenei & Pentagon vs. Anthropic (with Karim Sadjadpour)
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Mar 5, 2026 
Karim Sadjadpour, Iran expert and Carnegie senior fellow, offers crisp analysis of Iran after Khamenei's death. He maps possible regime trajectories, who might wield power next, and how ordinary Iranians are reacting. They also tackle the Pentagon‑Anthropic standoff, exploring supply‑chain risk, legal questions, and what it means for AI and national security.
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Khamenei Built Legitimacy On Perpetual Resistance
- Ayatollah Khamenei's decades-long strategy centered on perpetual resistance to the U.S. and Israel as the regime's core legitimacy.
- Karim Sadjadpour's speech analysis found Khamenei repeated a single resistance narrative across decades, making compromise unlikely.
Khatami Told Me Elites Need Enmity For Survival
- Mohammad Khatami privately told Sadjadpour that some elites oppose normalizing with the U.S. because it's against their personal interests.
- That off‑record remark corroborated Sadjadpour's finding that enmity with the U.S. serves regime insiders' survival.
Iran's Post‑Khamenei Future Could Mirror Five Archetypes
- In the medium term Iran could follow multiple archetypes ranging from Russia to Turkey depending who fills the power vacuum.
- Sadjadpour argues the next winning argument will likely be nationalism rather than clerical rule, though forms vary from negative Putin-style to pragmatic Gulf-style.