Paul and Mark truck through the dead period talking about optimism over the Bengals roster, training camp tips, access to Joe Burrow on Hard Knocks and the time James Harrison had enough of Paul.

Plus, Cincinnati vacation rankings, take workshop on player camps, embarrassing Cincinnati town names and when it's OK to trash a hotel room.

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Who Dey Light: Cautious(?) Bengals optimism, Burrow on Hard Knocks, vacation rankings