Cameron sits down with Matteo Jaramillo, the former Tesla exec building one of the most ambitious climate companies in the world: Form Energy. They dive into long-duration energy storage, the AI-driven demand boom, and what it takes to scale hard tech from idea to gigawatt-hours.

- Why Matteo left a path toward the priesthood after Yale Divinity School
- Simple breakdown of iron-air batteries
- Why 100-hour duration matters for grid reliability and extreme weather
- How iron-air can be ~10x cheaper than lithium-ion for long-duration storage
- Form’s first deployments and the path from R&D to commercialization
- The Google Energy Deal
- Scaling Hard Tech (and Avoiding the “Trap Doors”)
- Lessons from the boom-and-bust of battery startups
- Balancing commercial progress and technical readiness so neither outruns the other
- Why manufacturing is the hardest and final “trap door” in battery startups
- How Form produced 100,000+ electrodes (60 miles of material)
- Why big tech isn’t just buying power, but funding new energy technologies
- The role of Form’s data set (tens of millions of operating hours) in using AI to accelerate materials and electrochemistry innovation
- Lessons from Tesla & Elon Musk
- Matteo’s take on Elon’s aggressive deadlines—and why he runs Form differently

And lots more!

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Music credits: Bubble King written and produced by Cameron McLain and Stevan Cablayan aka Vector_XING.

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