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Mike Pesca on the Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em Podcast

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Mar 15, 2025
Mike Pesca, podcast host and journalist known for sharp cultural commentary, joins a freewheeling conversation. They trade stories about gym culture, male visuality, and single-sex spaces. The talk pivots to politics with Gavin Newsom’s interview tactics and the culture-war politics around transgender athletes. They also debate podcasting norms, platforming, and the ethics of true crime.
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INSIGHT

Trans Athletes Are An 80-20 Political Wedge

  • Public opinion on trans women in women’s sports is roughly 80% opposed and 20% supportive, creating a potent political wedge.
  • Mike Pesca notes Democrats risk losing voters by dismissing fairness concerns while claiming to defend trans civil rights.
ANECDOTE

A De Facto Men Only Gym Experience

  • Mike Pesca describes being a regular at multiple gyms, including a de facto men-only Crunch with a largely gay clientele.
  • He recalls sauna signs warning that inappropriate behavior gets you ejected and the gym's very male-dominated vibe.
INSIGHT

Athleisure Created A Contradiction Around Attention

  • Lululemon and athleisure normalized body-contouring clothing that invites visual attention while society simultaneously treats being looked at as trauma.
  • Pesca calls this twin trend culturally contradictory and hard on younger women who must contextualize attention.
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