1A The ICE ‘Conveyor Belt’ In Texas
Feb 5, 2026
Elora Mukherjee, immigration lawyer and clinic director; Stephanie Gee, refugee legal advocate and litigator; Jane Groutman, longtime director of a Minnesota refugee nonprofit. They discuss Operation Paris and how refugees are being summoned, arrested and transferred to Texas. They describe the so-called conveyor belt of detention, legal tracking challenges, disrupted family lives and mounting policy fights.
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Refugees Are Already Vetted And Legal
- Refugees arrive with extensive pre-arrival vetting and legal refugee status, not illegal status.
- Most refugees must wait a year to apply for green cards, so lacking a green card does not mean unlawfulness.
Hand‑Delivered Letters Led To Immediate Arrests
- Letters are hand-delivered and vague, found on porches or in snowbanks, causing confusion.
- People who complied by coming to appointments were sometimes arrested immediately, even with lawyers present.
Nationwide Review Lacks Evidentiary Justification
- DHS announced a nationwide review of refugees admitted under the Biden administration, about 200,000 people.
- Guests say this review lacks factual justification because refugees already receive maximum vetting overseas.