The Rest Is Politics: Leading 157. Ukraine, Diplomacy, and the Future of Europe (Dmytro Kuleba)
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Oct 12, 2025 
Dmytro Kuleba, former Foreign Minister of Ukraine, shares insights on the ongoing war and the delicate art of diplomacy. He discusses the resilience of the Ukrainian people, shaped by historical traumas, and the surprising support from countries like the Netherlands and Denmark. Kuleba contrasts his experiences with leaders such as Trump and Biden, emphasizing the complexities of U.S. domestic politics affecting aid. He also reflects on the challenges of negotiating peace and the implications of modern drone warfare for Ukraine's future in Europe.
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Unexpected European Leadership Came From Small States
- The Netherlands and Denmark unexpectedly led strong support for Ukraine and steered Germany to greater action.
- Small or less-expected allies can change the dynamics of European responses in crises.
UK Leadership Was Pivotal In Year One
- Britain provided early political leadership in 2022, personified by Boris Johnson's activism and ability to rally allies.
- Kuleba credits UK leadership with setting a threshold that pushed others to act more decisively.
Nuclear Risk Shapes US Policy
- US presidents fear nuclear escalation, which constrained Biden's actions despite strong support for Ukraine.
- Kuleba views Biden as the best US president Ukraine could have had in 2022 given that caution and experience.