The Rest Is Politics

51. Mark Drakeford on Labour success, Tory PMs, and Welsh nationalism

Sep 16, 2022
Mark Drakeford, the First Minister of Wales and Leader of Welsh Labour, shares his insights from a long career in Welsh politics. He discusses the historical success of Labour in Wales and the evolving narrative around Welsh nationalism. Mark emphasizes the importance of coalition politics and the push for proportional representation to invigorate governance. He reflects on the impact of Brexit and the distinctive political identity of Wales compared to Scotland and Northern England, while also addressing the influence of personal pursuits amidst the demands of public life.
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ANECDOTE

The Lord of Aberavon

  • Drakeford shares an anecdote from Lord Haycock's obituary, highlighting the "boss" style in old Welsh politics.
  • Jehovah's Witnesses asked if the "Lord" was in, and Lady Haycock replied, "Yes, but he's watching Aberavon."
INSIGHT

Respectful Devolution

  • Drakeford contrasts Theresa May's and Boris Johnson's approaches to the UK.
  • He suggests that May, despite disagreeing with Drakeford, respected diverse opinions, while Johnson's "muscular unionism" was counterproductive.
INSIGHT

Welsh Cooperation

  • In Wales, working with other parties is necessary due to no party holding a majority.
  • Drakeford highlights the benefits of cooperation with other progressive parties, despite disagreeing with Plaid Cymru on independence.
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