
Factually! with Adam Conover Being Trans in Trump's America with Dylan McKeever, River Butcher, and Sammy Mowrey
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Mar 26, 2025 This week, Adam Conover chats with River Butcher, a stand-up comedian and actor, Sammy Mowrey, a comedic talent opening for River, and Dylan McKeever, a creator at Cartoon Network. They share their experiences navigating life as trans individuals during turbulent political times. The discussion covers personal safety, the commercialization of Pride, and the challenges faced in sports. Their humorous anecdotes challenge societal norms while advocating for understanding and acceptance, making for an enlightening and engaging conversation.
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History of Gender Markers
- Gender markers on IDs originated in the 1970s due to xenophobia, not for feminist reasons.
- The true solution may be removing gender markers entirely.
Name Change and Airport Anonymity
- Sammy Mowry changed their name for "gender reasons" but worries about passport updates.
- They employ tactics like wearing beanies and masks in airports to navigate potential scrutiny.
Transitioning as the Hardest Part
- River Butcher, having transitioned, feels they've already overcome the hardest part.
- Dylan McKeever finds it surprising to be defined by their trans identity in the podcast.


