Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh RZA Taught Kanye, The Truth About Kendrick vs. Drake, & ODB Used a Paper Towel Condom??? | Ep 702
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Apr 29, 2026 
RZA, iconic Wu-Tang architect and producer, reflects on building the clan from nothing and shaping hip-hop. He recalls Method Man, ODB’s wild performances, producing techniques and sampling, and how Wu influenced Kanye and Blueprint-era rap. He also weighs in on the Drake vs Kendrick dynamic and shares film and leadership stories.
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Use Long Walks To Make Big Decisions
- Take long walks to make major life decisions and clear thinking.
- RZA describes walking after his trial with a newborn and choosing to refuse a drug brick flip, which changed his life trajectory and birthed Wu-Tang.
Built Wu Identity With A Business Card
- RZA used his $10K to form a company called Wu-Tang Productions instead of buying drugs.
- He photographed his business card big for Protect Your Neck cover art, turning a basic identity move into the album aesthetic.
How Gear Defines Rap Flow
- Production tools shape musical phrasing and style by their limits.
- RZA contrasts SP-1200 (short chops forcing sped-up one-bar phrases) with the EPS (longer samples across keyboard) which expanded Wu's two/four-bar patterns.