
The Nextcloud Podcast Privacy and Surveillance Law with Max Schrems
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Nov 15, 2023 Max Schrems, a renowned privacy lawyer and founder of NOYB, dives into critical topics surrounding EU data privacy and surveillance law. He discusses the implications of the new Transatlantic Data Privacy Framework and reflects on 15 years of debates regarding EU-US data transfers. Max emphasizes the need for tech-neutral regulations to foster innovation and prevent abuse while advocating for individual rights in the face of data as a powerful currency. He also shares insights into NOYB's commitment to self-hosting for enhanced data privacy.
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Transatlantic Framework Likely Unsustainable
- EU-US data transfer agreements keep failing because US surveillance law forces providers to hand data to agencies.
- Max Schrems expects the new framework to be unsustainable before the Court of Justice.
National Laws Don't Fit A Global Internet
- Surveillance laws still assume national protection tied to citizenship or status, leaving many unprotected online.
- Interconnected online data erodes those national-bound protections and creates global exposure.
Favor Tech‑Neutral, High‑Level Regulation
- Write tech-neutral, high-level rules that capture common problems instead of regulating each technology.
- Aim for simple principles that apply across innovations to avoid thousands of unreadable pages.


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