Shameless Popery #188 Did I Misrepresent Gavin Ortlund on the Infallibility of Scripture? - Joe Heschmeyer
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Jul 4, 2025 
Gavin Ortlund, evangelical theologian and apologist, responds to debates about how prophets receive and transmit revelation. The conversation centers on whether fallible hearing by prophets threatens Scripture’s inerrancy. Short, pointed exchanges weigh canonical preservation, transmission errors, and where authority for the Bible ultimately rests.
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Revelation Versus Reception Tension
- Joe argues revelation itself is infallible but human reception can introduce error, creating a logical tension if prophets are fallible.
- He claims allowing fallible reception (e.g., Moses mishearing) undermines confidence in Biblical inerrancy and reliability.
Uncertainty About Canon Undermines Trust
- Joe frames three hypothetical stances about books: all man-made, some inspired but uncertain which, and all inspired and known.
- He argues the second (Gavin's) collapses into the first because uncertainty about which books are inspired leaves readers unable to trust any given book.
Objective Faith Requires Preserved Revelation
- Joe distinguishes subjective faith (fallible believing) from objective faith (the content believed, which is infallible).
- He uses Jude 1:3 and examples of corrupted textual claims (Mormon/Muslim) to show objective revelation must be preserved to matter.