On this episode: Zak and Jamilah are joined by Autumn Brown. Autumn is a mother, organizer, theologian, artist, facilitator, and co-host of the podcast, How to Survive the End of the World. They advise a listener wanting to help her kid better understand gender, stereotypes, and their own identity.

Recommendations:

Jamilah recommends Ace of Hates, a card game created by Dan Kois.

Autumn recommends Already Free: Buddhism Meets Psychotherapy on the Path of Liberation by Bruce Tift

Zak recommends Joni Mitchell’s set at Newport Folk Festival

Additional Reading:

A Kids Book About Gender by Dale Mueller

Julián Is a Mermaid by Jessica Love

21 Children's Books About Gender Identity And Gender Expression That Should Be On Every Kid's Bookshelf by Pablo Valdivia

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