After an economic shock that’s unique in human history, how can we rebuild Britain’s businesses and public finances? How are we going to pay off a national debt unseen outside of wartime? Ian Mulheirn, Chief Economist of Renewing the Centre at the Tony Blair Institute, tells Naomi Smith about the hard choices ahead in a world without rules.

“This is the first time ever that governments have actively decided to switch the economy off.”
“We won’t be as worried about paying this debt off as we might have been in the past. We’ll just have to live with it.”
“This is what the State is for. It’s for safeguarding livelihoods and lives in times of crisis.”

Presented by Naomi Smith. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production.

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